Chat Session of October 3, 2006
Distance Learning Tips, with Janice Martin
Courtney Grammer: Welcome to the CCNH Chat Room. We are glad you’ve joined us. CCNH offers holistic nutrition and natural health education; we do not diagnose or dispense nutritional/health advice. We invite you to peruse our Resource links in the Students and Alumni Services area to get a jumpstart on researching any personal health issues.
Janice Martin: Well, even though it’s a little early, why don’t we get started on our topic tonight.
Cassi Brindle: sounds great
Janice Martin: I think, from what I’ve seen already, we’ll have a lively and interesting discussion from this group.
Janice Martin: Our topic tonight is “Distance Learning Tips”
Claudia Cleary: That’s good to know. I got so furious when I read When Healing Becomes A Crime that I recommended the book to everyone I know.
Michele Gordon: Great topic!
Janice Martin: That’s truly a powerful book and an interesting place to start in the Pre–requisites.
Jeanine Manzano: whose the author?
Kerry Wondolowski: I love that class...I’m taking it now
Janice Martin: When a student enrolls in CCNH, or any distance learning program, the first thing to do is to always read the Student Handbook.
Claudia Cleary: That was the book that had the most profound impact on me so far. . .
Claudia Cleary: I read mine cover to cover. . . student handbook, I mean
Janice Martin: We’ve developed a detailed handbook that has answers to most questions, especially about how to get started, and to have a smooth start.
Janice Martin: Great, Claudia.
Jeanine Manzano: I did, but I’ll have to read it again since it’s been so long since I started
Janice Martin: What are some of the most helpful things you’ve found in your Handbooks?
Kerry Wondolowski: It is the bible of Clayton College
Janice Martin: Good point, Kerry.
Janice Martin: It seems to me that how to order your materials and take tests, on–line or on paper, is the most important and helpful information.
Claudia Cleary: Let’s see. . .how to test online, the requirements, how to pick electives, that’s another decision for the future that changes daily
Jeanine Manzano: What’s the best way to select the next pre–requisite course?
Kerry Wondolowski: the on–line testing info has been very helpful
Jeanine Manzano: I’m almost done with principles of nutrition and ready to choose the next class(es)
Michele Gordon: In the beginning, I found myself just visiting the web site...
Janice Martin: You’re approved at the time of enrollment for all your Pre–requisites, so you can take them in pretty much any order.
Janice Martin: Good idea, Michele; it has lots of helpful information.
Michele Gordon: I also found these chats to be helpful... and it gave me a connection with you all... and the school...
Jeanine Manzano: This is my first time and I’m really enjoying it :)
Janice Martin: The chats are great, as are the conferences. Anything that helps students get and stay connected is important.
Kristina Giovanetti: Hi...How can I find out if there are other students who live in my area?...Seattle, WA
Michele Gordon: The conferences are ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!
Eritsa Jones: This is my first time as well and you are all part of a dream for me
Janice Martin: I think that as adult learners in distance learning program, it’s important to develop connections with each other.
Pam Brehm: The interaction with fellow students is necessary and this is a great way to achieve that!
Sara Neben: it’s soooo easy to get disconnected
Kerry Wondolowski: I feel so isolated sometimes...this is nice
Janice Martin: Those are great comments – thanks!
Claudia Cleary: One very serious question, Janice––I have had a hard time with having no one from my area that I can discuss school work with it
Janice Martin: Kristina, have you seen our Reference Map on the web site?
Janice Martin: All you have to do is click on your state, and a list of web sites and e–mail addresses of other students will appear.
Michele Gordon: The staff is always also very helpful! I’ve never been put “on hold”... always someone to help with my questons...
Debbie Preston: I also don’t have anyone to discuss CCNH work with
Kristina Giovanetti: From what I can see it only has state information. Nothing more specific
Janice Martin: Claudia, you might try the same thing – the Reference Map.
Kerry Wondolowski: where are you from Claudia?
Claudia Cleary: I have, and I have emailed the students listed nearby, and others from across the country, and get no responses
Janice Martin: Kristina, you may be right; if you e–mail some of the students on the list, you may network enough to find others in your area.
Jeanine Manzano: I’ll have to check also because I don’t know anybody I can discuss my studies with here in Miami, FL
Claudia Cleary: Outside St. Louis, Mo
Kristina Giovanetti: okay, I’ll try that. Thanks.
Petra Craven: I would be happy to find someone to correspond with or in my area ....Denver, co
Debbie Preston: Jeanine, I am in Ft. Laud!!
Janice Martin: Claudia, I know that’s frustrating, and I’m a little surprised by the lack of responses.
Claudia Cleary: oops, My area is called St. Charles, a burb
Sara Neben: I’m in central NE.
Janice Martin: Our students are always very eager to connect and communicate.
Janice Martin: developing student groups; we receive their messages all the time and so stay informed.
Beth Bautz: This is my first time coming to Chat :) Is it just like any normal chat, where talk and ask questions? Or is there an actual faculty presentation?
Janice Martin: Welcome to those just joining us – we mentioned the Reference Map earlier, so you might try that on our web site.
Janice Martin: Hi, Beth, yes, I’m the faculty member chatting tonight. It’s more of an informal chat, rather than a presentation.
Beth Bautz: thank you :) Then this would be a good evening to ask questions?
Janice Martin: Another resource on our web site is the Bulletin Boards for each course, in the Holistic Connection.
Janice Martin: Absolutely, Beth.
Sara Neben: I wish more chats could be at 8pm
Claudia Cleary: me, too, Sara
Cassi Brindle: Is anyone in Austin Texas??
Janice Martin: Sara, I’ll pass that along to the webmaster.
Cynthia Alexander–Williams: hi, my name is Cynthia Alexander–Williams, new student to the CCNH family.
Janice Martin: Hi, Cynthia!
Petra Craven: it’s hard to make the earlier time if people work
Sara Neben: hope so...I do feel more connected after a chat. I’ve been studying awhile and life seems to take over sometimes
Janice Martin: One thing you can do if you miss the chat, is visit the archives to read it, but I know it’s not the same.
Rita Hannahs: 8 is great for me too
Petra Craven: yes, it isn’t for me
Cynthia Alexander–Williams: Hi! This is a great time for me as well.
Michele Gordon: There is something really great about this live chat connection...
Beth Bautz: I’m just getting started in the Family Herbalist Program. Is there anyone else here just getting started in this program as well?
Kerry Wondolowski: I actually love searching through the archives
Petra Craven: are there other chats just for students?
Janice Martin: Cassi, I’m not quite sure about Austin, but I know Texas has the student group which is now meeting at least monthly.
Cassi Brindle: That is so true for me
Janice Martin: Other students just connect, the way some of you are doing, and develop their own informal study and networking groups.
Cassi Brindle: great how would I find them?
Debbie Preston: any insight to me... dr of naturopathy?
Jeanine Manzano: I started a year ago, but I’m still in the same course. What’s helped me lately
Rita Hannahs: I’m in the same program, Debbie
Sara Neben: I’m dr. of naturopathy too
Cassi Brindle: Me too
Jeanine Manzano: is to put the study time in my calendar and separate that time
Petra Craven: I am too!
Claudia Cleary: MS in Holistic Nutrition, and already being consulted for advice
Debbie Preston: I’m dual...natural studies & Dr.of Naturopathy
Jeanine Manzano: I don’t answer phones or worry about the house at that time
Janice Martin: Cassi, and others, I think each group is sending out e–mail announcements to all in their area. I’m not quite sure how that works, but our webmaster would know more about it.
Sara Neben: haha...me too Debbie
Janice Martin: Good idea, Jeanine – it’s very important, especially for new students, to structure their time.
Janice Martin: It’s difficult, with all the other adult work and family responsibilities, to find study time.
Cassi Brindle: Thank you, Janice
Michele Gordon: That is one hard thing about distance learning... the discipline... study times, etc.
Debbie Preston: the projects are so time consuming for me. to concentrate..aaghh!
Jeanine Manzano: Discipline is part of good health :)
Beth Bautz: It looks like most of you are going for the Dr. of Naturopathy *sighs* I guess I’m one of the little guys, lol
Michele Gordon: This is true, Jeanine...!
Kerry Wondolowski: I can definitely procrastinate
Janice Martin: So, instead of just hoping to scrape a little extra time, it’s important, as Jeanine mentioned, to set aside a specific study time.
Kristina Giovanetti: What are you going for, Beth?
Petra Craven: I’ve procrastinated but I enjoy the flexibility
Jeanine Manzano: If I had done earlier I would be done with my first course already :)
Janice Martin: Two to three study sessions a week is usually enough – about two to three hours per study session if possible.
Kerry Wondolowski: me too...great for me with small children
Michele Gordon: I’ve found I start hitting it harder in the fall... feels natural to study then, and thru the winter and spring..
Debbie Preston: I enjoy the flexibility too...but sometimes it’s too flexible
Beth Bautz: My goal is to get my Master Herbalist Certification, but right now I’m only on the Family Herbalist Certificate
Jeanine Manzano: by the way... I’m for my ms in holistic nutrition
Pam Brehm: In addition to scheduled time, I like to take my textbook & highlighter with me––everywhere. Take today for example. Had to wait for an appointment so I read ad highlighted for an extra hour. Really was a big help.
Petra Craven: yes, true about the fall and winter it’s seems easier to study
Cynthia Alexander–Williams: So am I right now. I also have a master’s in Rehab.
Debbie Preston: I’m in Ft. Lauderdale
Michele Gordon: Yes, Pam... I usually carry a book along everywhere I go... it’s amazing where you find an hour here and there in the day...
Kerry Wondolowski: me too Pam...my acupuncturists laughs at me all the time for that!
Janice Martin: You’re right, Debbie, it’s sometimes difficult for distance learning students to avoid procrastination when there’s not a structured class to attend.
Petra Craven: I do the same thing!
Jeanine Manzano: I do that too, and specially when I take my car for service... it takes for ever!
Janice Martin: That’s where the self–discipline and structured time come in handy!
Cynthia Alexander–Williams: I take my book to work and read on my lunch break and whenever I can steal a hour or two
Janice Martin: The nice thing about the flexibility, is that you can take your work with you during those waits, or lunch breaks.
Petra Craven: that works for me as well Cynthia
Debora Clow: Petra, I’m in Peyton just out of springs
Debbie Preston: I’m studying for at least 5 years, first with a BS in Metaphysics, now this
Pam Brehm: I tend to tackle things head–on.
Janice Martin: You can also use the flexibility in a positive way to schedule around child and family needs.
Janice Martin: Can you explain more, Pam?
Kerry Wondolowski: My kids love that mommy has homework too!
Jeanine Manzano: I gather, Kerry, that your children are young
Kerry Wondolowski: 4 and 6
Jeanine Manzano: mine are teenagers and don’t care much about my homework :)
Claudia Cleary: :) I have an 8 year old daughter
Pam Brehm: I know what task (courses) and work are before me. So, I just jump in feet first. Putting things off is more uncomfortable than anything.
Kerry Wondolowski: my girls act like teens already...I’m scared!
Debbie Preston: No, I studied at American Inst. of Holistic Theology
Claudia Cleary: it gets worse
Janice Martin: Good point, Pam. Procrastination is worse than just doing it.
Jeanine Manzano: How cute. I guess I’m one of the older students LOL
Kerry Wondolowski: good for you Pam...I need some of that determination!
Sara Neben: I know what you mean Pam...I feel sick to my stomach when I get so far behind
Eritsa Jones: Not really, Janice, my son just graduated college
Beth Bautz: I’m in my 40’s with a son in College Jeanine – so don’t feel you’re alone, lol
Michele Gordon: Me too, Jeanine... I think it would be hard with young ones, to study... my cats try to stop me sometimes... LOL...
Janice Martin: Pam’s idea connects with another of the distance learning tips – it’s important to become familiar with the course material, and plan ahead.
Claudia Cleary: me too, it seems to be taking longer than I thought
Cynthia Alexander–Williams: Is there anyone in the Baltimore, MD area for me to talk to on occasions?
Debbie Preston: do you set time limits for your classes? anyone
Petra Craven: I do!
Eritsa Jones: Yes 2 hours
Kerry Wondolowski: I’m form NJ, Cynthia...slightly close
Michele Gordon: Getting my books was always fun... I had to look thru them all and get a feel for them...
Beth Bautz: Limits? how do you mean, Debbie
Pam Brehm: Definitely! Have a goal for each lesson––whether it be 5 pages, 10 pages or the whole chapter and stick to it making sure to be realistic.
Jeanine Manzano: That’s another thing... I have three cats and a dog and they also want their share of attention some times :)
Petra Craven: do you mean how long it takes to finish a class?
Rita Hannahs: Jeanine I am older too. All four of my children are graduated, with two in college right now
Debbie Preston: time limit for the course... ie. 8 weeks...
Jeanine Manzano: I don’t feel that old now LOL
Janice Martin: It does make it easier when children are older, but the responsibilities still go on!
Pam Brehm: We’re not old––just experienced!
Petra Craven: something like that — about 5–7 weeks for me
Jeanine Manzano: LOL, Pam
Eritsa Jones: There you go Pam
Janice Martin: I saw a mention of “limits” earlier; it could mean limits on a particular study session, or
Rita Hannahs: My son laughs at me about taking classes, he said I’m too old. I’m only 50
Jeanine Manzano: I was thinking about setting time limits too
Claudia Cleary: hey, I started late, in a lot in life
Kerry Wondolowski: you’re never too old to learn and experience
Petra Craven: I think it helps
Kristina Giovanetti: That’s a great attitude, Rita. You’re not old at all!
Pam Brehm: That’s right Kerry!
Janice Martin: as others have mentioned, limits on how long you allow yourself to complete the course.
Jeanine Manzano: If I know that I have to finish after certain time it would push me to study more consciously
Michele Gordon: I like to study for 45 minutes and then take a half hour break... and do this for about half a day....
Claudia Cleary: Sara, A& P.
Rita Hannahs: Thanks Kristina, I don’t feel old.
Debbie Preston: I don’t think my friends and family take my studies seriously
Kerry Wondolowski: mine don’t at all
Michele Gordon: But I think we all have our own ways of pacing ourselves...
Janice Martin: The general guideline for one course is about two months per course, depending on the difficulty level and any project requirements.
Pam Brehm: Debbie, what matters is if YOU take your studies seriously!
Claudia Cleary: LL, Sara, but a good idea
Rita Hannahs: How do you find a study partner in your state
Petra Craven: that’s good guideline Janice
Michelle Hamilton: hi everyone
Kerry Wondolowski: it really hurt at first, but I’m on this earth to fulfill my purpose, not to please them all the time!
Kristina Giovanetti: Where are you Rita?
Janice Martin: Good point, Michele; in spite of the “two hour” suggestions, we are truthfully hard–wired for study for only about 20 – 30 minutes at a time.
Cassi Brindle: Kerry , that’s how you know your on the right path!
Debbie Preston: I take it seriously and I try to live it...it’s hard in this convenience world
Rita Hannahs: I’m in Michigan
Petra Craven: I always wondered how long a course should take to finish on average
Pam Brehm: That’s super Kerry!
Claudia Cleary: what class are you studying, Sara?
Victor Pallares: Most people don’t really take distance learning seriously. Some think because the education is distance learning it is less valuable.
Kerry Wondolowski: it really is Debbie
Michelle Hamilton: anyone studying Iridology
Sara Neben: Dr. of Naturopathy
Janice Martin: Hi, Rita, you might try the Reference Map on our web site, the bulletin boards on the web site, and also some of the study groups that are developing in various states.
Janice Martin: Right, Victor, we do hear that.
Rita Hannahs: thanks Janice
Jeanine Manzano: I have to do it for two hours, but I take a few minutes breaks
Victor Pallares: For me it has been hard to adapt to distance learning.
Michele Gordon: Victor, I am seeing that more people are taking distance learning seriously... it just needed to get more of a following, I think...
Pam Brehm: Victor, I have encountered the same –– people think distance learning is a diploma mill.
Petra Craven: anybody else in Colorado here?
Janice Martin: I have a personal idea about that; when I completed my first doctorate at the University of Alabama, I drove two hours one–way to class.
Claudia Cleary: :) how long, Sara? I have taken over 8 months on one class
Kerry Wondolowski: I get that too Victor
Janice Martin: Then I sat in class for two hours or more, perhaps visited the computer lab, then drove back.
Janice Martin: Imagine all that driving time!
Claudia Cleary: where are you, Sara?
Jeanine Manzano: It’s amazing that in other parts of the world they take distance learning more seriously than here in the US
Janice Martin: So I tell folks I’m a walking testimonial to distance learning – I even did my dissertation “distance” by driving.
Beth Bautz: Wow Janice! That’s called dedication to your studies! :)
Claudia Cleary: how long do it take to complete a class?
Kerry Wondolowski: amen to that
Johanne Wayne: I’m in Colorado!!!
Petra Craven: that’s pretty crazy, Janice
Michele Gordon: I think as the internet has become more popular, and technology... distance learning is becoming more of a way to go...
Victor Pallares: I feel like sometimes I need someone to push me along the way.
Janice Martin: I had a lot more energy 20 years ago!
Beth Bautz: I hear ya!
Janice Martin: Right, Michele, in fact, most universities and colleges are also offering DL courses.
Victor Pallares: But I slowly adapting.
Debbie Preston: are you doing alot of studying outside of the textbooks?
Petra Craven: Johanne, let’s talk after the chat!
Johanne Wayne: k
Claudia Cleary: I don’t know how to do that. . . wish I did
Debbie Preston: ie other resources?
Kerry Wondolowski: it will get easier, Victor
Janice Martin: Well, back to the focus at hand – another tip is to structure study time, but also set up
Janice Martin: an organized space.
Beth Bautz: Does anyone else get nervous about the tests?
Kerry Wondolowski: I have no space...kids took over
Debbie Preston: yes, nervous....that I
Janice Martin: Even if it’s just a corner or a small desk, it’s helpful to have your own space for your work!
Petra Craven: I get nervous a little
Michele Gordon: that organized space helps, Janice... I feel ready to study in that space...
Victor Pallares: I really like all the information I am receiving that’s what makes it easier.
Jeanine Manzano: Unfortunately I do my paper work and studies in my bedroom
Debbie Preston: I’m going to push the wrong button like I just did!!
Janice Martin: Thanks, Victor.
Jeanine Manzano: that’s why I have trouble sleeping some times
Janice Martin: What is making you nervous about taking the tests?
Cassi Brindle: I feel the same way Victor, could we all chat more often just to beheld more accountable?
Krzysztof Gryszowka: Anybody out there from Illinois?
Beth Bautz: I don’t test well, even when it’s “open book”. I don’t like to have my book near me when I test. Otherwise, what would be the point, lol. Of course, I could just be weird like that.
Petra Craven: I like reading and learning the material, the test are kind of fun at time
Kerry Wondolowski: I study all over...I get bored easily...always need a change of scenery
Janice Martin: Oh, I see. I think one trick is to have your short essay answers already typed into your word–processing program, and then all you have to do is cut and paste.
Petra Craven: I don’t have a specific space either
Pam Brehm: I like to study in my office––the quiet, private space works well ad I can leave things all set up for the next session.
Janice Martin: That at least helps with the written answers.
Jeanine Manzano: I do my tests on paper first and then go online
Petra Craven: I like to sit on the balcony and study outside
Kristina Giovanetti: I do my tests on paper first, too.
Kerry Wondolowski: studying outside is my fav too
Beth Bautz: That’s a good idea, Janice
Janice Martin: Good idea, Jeanine; that way, if you do hit the wrong button, you still have your material!
Pam Brehm: Yes, paper tests first.
Petra Craven: I usually do the test on paper first as well
Kerry Wondolowski: I agree
Debbie Preston: I study at lunch in my truck...usually get lunch on my books LOL
Cassi Brindle: good idea!
Petra Craven: makes it a lot easier online
Janice Martin: Pam, that also makes sense; you don’t have to pick everything up, and you can re–start quickly!
Jeanine Manzano: I like to study outside but I get more distracted
Michelle Hamilton: I work full time and study but I have not been able to put in adequate study time and set hours...I need some advice
Pam Brehm: Exactly and makes you want to just sit down and study even if you only have 20 minutes.
Debbie Preston: got a book holder that fits on my steering wheel
Jeanine Manzano: I love nature so anything distracts me, specially my pets :)
Janice Martin: Michelle, it’s OK to give yourself some slack, especially at first. You’ll get into the rhythm and routine soon.
Rita Hannahs: Jeanine my little dog distracts me all the time.
Petra Craven: I have an iguana that can distract me as well if he is out with me
Michele Gordon: Michelle, just start small... find an hour that always works... I began with an hour in the a.m.
Claudia Cleary: LOL Jeanine!
Kerry Wondolowski: mine too Rita
Sara Neben: I’m nervous I might not finish in the required time
Debbie Preston: Jeanine, let’s e–mail soon.
Petra Craven: Sara, that has crossed my mind too
Kerry Wondolowski: you’ll be fine
Janice Martin: Meanwhile, you might try setting aside small amounts of time to start with, for studying.
Victor Pallares: I have a tendency to read the study guide tests just to have an idea of what "things" I should look for in the material. Is this a bad study habit?
Jeanine Manzano: I have a killer cat, so I cannot have an iguana although I love reptiles!
Kerry Wondolowski: just remember to breathe
Rita Hannahs: How many hours a day should you set aside to get a degree as a Doctor of Naturopathy
Michelle Hamilton: I am actually trying to make a career shift from marketing so I am warped at the end of the day
Jeanine Manzano: Yes, Debbie, I’ll email you first thing tomorrow I won’t promise tonight :)
Janice Martin: Victor, that’s actually a good practice. It helps to know what the most important points are.
Pam Brehm: I like to study on a Saturday or Sunday morning straight out of bed, grab a protein shake and begin in my pj’s. Can get a lot accomplished.
Debbie Preston: I’m signing off. Thanks!!
Janice Martin: Another idea is to pay attention to the Summary statements, or key points, in the textbooks. Those are always important.
Claudia Cleary: bye, Debbie
Kerry Wondolowski: bye Deb
Janice Martin: Thanks, Debbie, for joining us!
Michele Gordon: bye Debbie
Petra Craven: bye Debbie
Beth Bautz: I do that too, Victor. I read the study guide first – tests, objectives – then I read the book and take notes based on the objectives.
Cassi Brindle: bye Deb
Rita Hannahs: I’m just starting but I want to finish in two years
Victor Pallares: Good night Debbie
Kerry Wondolowski: me too Victor
Janice Martin: Pam, you bring up another important point – of biorhythms, and the time of day that is best for you to study.
Michele Gordon: Yes!
Jeanine Manzano: Michelle, I shifted from paralegal to personal trainer and fitness instructor and working on my ms in holistic nutrition :)
Kerry Wondolowski: I’m better in the am
Janice Martin: That, of course, will be different for different people.
Rita Hannahs: Jeanine, I have a paralegal degree too
Claudia Cleary: afternoons do NOT work, I get dozy then
Petra Craven: I am a total morning person too
Cynthia Alexander–Williams: I’m signing off as well. This is a little overwhelming for me. I need to get on line more often for the chat’s to understand and follow what is happening.
Michelle Hamilton: how did you manage Jeannie..
Pam Brehm: Yes, plus late night seems to work well for me too!
Janice Martin: We even have some coursework that addresses those issues of alertness and mental sharpness.
Kerry Wondolowski: bye Cynthia
Janice Martin: Cynthia, feel free to give me a call tomorrow – glad to have you with us!
Petra Craven: bye Cynthia
Victor Pallares: I am forced to study in a couple of hours in the morning and a couple at night.
Claudia Cleary: yeah, Janice? Which ones?
Jeanine Manzano: For me was easier b/c I’m not the bread winner in my household
Janice Martin: Pam, you must have a lot of energy!
Jeanine Manzano: however, I had to do some sacrifices
Pam Brehm: Determination PLUS I love to take classes! We must always continue to learn and grow!
Janice Martin: I think Biological Psychology covers that, and I can’t remember specific others, but your Faculty Advisor might know.
Michelle Hamilton: I am struggling Jeanine...I have gone 1 year and not done a test
Cassi Brindle: Anyone in Austin?
Kerry Wondolowski: I agree Pam!!!
Claudia Cleary: thanks!
Petra Craven: Janice, how many hours a day on average should we spend studying to finish the program in the allotted time frame?
Janice Martin: Yes, Jeanine, any gain usually does involve a loss – even if it’s “just” free time!
Jeanine Manzano: I’ve gone a year but I’m just a final exam away
Jeanine Manzano: just try to set your study time in your calendar
Jeanine Manzano: and don’t let anything sabotage your study time
Janice Martin: We each have to decide what to sacrifice, and how much time to give to our studies.
Krzysztof Gryszowka: Anyone from Chicago area
Jeanine Manzano: I know is easier to say than to do
Michele Gordon: That is true... putting it in the calendar as you would any other appointment helps...
Lara Weinstein: the Chicago area
Janice Martin: We’ve mentioned getting organized and setting aside study time.
Jeanine Manzano: but after a while it becomes easier
Janice Martin: Additional things to do include setting general time frames and goals for completion of a specific course, or phase.
Claudia Cleary: Hi, Krzstof, I’m outside st. louis
Jeanine Manzano: I work by appointments so I really must put my study time as one
Lara Weinstein: I live around chicago
Victor Pallares: I have a guideline at least two hours a day per class taken.
Janice Martin: For example, you might set this up on your calendar over a “semester” for yourself.
Pam Brehm: Great Janice! Or even goals from the next study session! Small bits at a time!
Jeanine Manzano: I would like to finish in two years also
Jeanine Manzano: I know that I will have to set more specific goals...
Janice Martin: work can be stressful and interfere with other aspects of our lives sometimes.
Michele Gordon: balance is key in this too...
Jeanine Manzano: Janice, that semester idea is really great!
Beth Bautz: Okay, I have a question that might seem kind of sad, lol = I live in North Dakota. Our warm weather season is very short. One of my lessons involves finding out about local herbs in the area. What is the best way to do this? I’m not good at recognizing herbs by sight yet. And I have been the book store & local library to find regional books about herbs, but I’m having no luck.
Pam Brehm: Sometimes thinking about the entire course could be overwhelming so if it is split into smaller chunks . . .
Janice Martin: Right, Pam – if things feel overwhelming, such as tackling an entire course at once
Michelle Hamilton: thanks Janice
Janice Martin: simply set it up into more easily obtainable goals. Looks like we’re thinking alike, Pam.
Victor Pallares: Beth try the library databases I saw an Herbs database somewhere in there.
Michele Gordon: Beth, you might visit a local ranger station... they are very helpful in this... finding plants... and showing you these, etc. Also universities...
Michelle Hamilton: is there anyone enrolled in iridology currently
Janice Martin: Also, you might try a local herb shop or health food store – any local herbalists would likely have cards or announcements there, and might be able to help.
Pam Brehm: Also, if we have not already figured it out . . . discover how YOU learn best. What plan of action suits your lifestyle.
Jeanine Manzano: It’s been really nice and informative chat, but I’ll have to sign out
Jeanine Manzano: Nice knowing all of you!
Janice Martin: We have several students enrolled in iridology – you might try the iridology course bulletin boards.
Michele Gordon: Bye Jeanine!
Janice Martin: Thanks, Jeanine, glad to have you with us.
Beth Bautz: Those are great suggestions – thank you! :)
Claudia Cleary: bye, J
Michelle Hamilton: bye Jeanine thanks
Pam Brehm: Do you work better from a long stretch and then take a day off or do you make more progress working smaller amounts every day.
Victor Pallares: Bye Jeanine
Petra Craven: bye Jeanine
Kerry Wondolowski: I agree Pam...I’ve learned to relax, take it one day at a time, and try to have fun with it...otherwise, what is it worth?
Janice Martin: Good ideas, Pam. Also, I think age and stress make a difference.
Pam Brehm: EXACTLY!
Michelle Hamilton: course bulletin boards give links to these students
Victor Pallares: I have too many distractions on the weekends sometimes my age makes it hard to focus on the weekends.
Janice Martin: I have found that I now (as I’m aging :) ) work better on difficult projects in longer time segments. I’m less willing to work in small spurts.
Pam Brehm: I think the more experienced(LOL older) we get the easier it is to go with the flow and actually LISTEN to that internal clock and prompt that direct us.
Victor Pallares: Your absolutely right Pam
Janice Martin: Sometimes, Victor, it might be helpful to simply go to the library (or local herbal tea shop), and move away from the home and leisure distractions.
Pam Brehm: Great idea!
Kerry Wondolowski: that’s a good idea
Janice Martin: Sometimes, if I’ve been working too hard, it also helps to take a break – take a walk, break away from the focus and work for a while.
Pam Brehm: Victor, where are you located?
Victor Pallares: Yes I have found that helpful I sneak into my local college library.
Michele Gordon: Those breaks are priceless!!
Rita Hannahs: Should we be doing one course at a time or more
Victor Pallares: I am in Hollywood.
Pam Brehm: I like to work in big, long chunks.
Janice Martin: Rita, it’s your choice. Some prefer to move through one course in focused fashion.
Claudia Cleary: I head to the community library sometimes, just to get away
Kerry Wondolowski: trying to do 2 courses now...it’s actually not so bad
Rita Hannahs: oh, okay thanks
Sandra Ikenaga: we need to get up and move every once in a while to get our energy and concentration back
Janice Martin: Others would rather work on more than one at a time. There’s really no set rule.
Janice Martin: Sandra, you’re right – that’s actually a physiological phenomenon as well, based on neurological chemistry.
Rita Hannahs: I find if I walk for an hour in the morning and workout for half an hour and then come home and study, I can really get into it
Kerry Wondolowski: me to
Victor Pallares: Anybody located in California?
Janice Martin: The exercise really prepares our brains to absorb and focus on the studies.
Pam Brehm: I usually cook in between study session on a Sunday and it is a nice break.
Michele Gordon: Nice balance...
Cassi Brindle: thanks everyone its been great , good night.
Michele Gordon: Good night!
Janice Martin: Thanks, Cassi.
Pam Brehm: Bye
Kerry Wondolowski: goodnight Cassie
Janice Martin: One thing we haven’t discussed specifically is to reward yourself for your hard work and studies! How do you reward yourselves?
Sara Neben: thanks everyone. I really needed to get connected again
Sara Neben: goodnight
Michele Gordon: Good night!
Claudia Cleary: a personal yoga class—I teach, rarely take
Beth Bautz: How long do these chat sessions usually last? And, are all scheduled chats archived?
Pam Brehm: I reward myself with a day off. Like I said, I work in chucks, so when I choose to take a day off—no guilt!
Michelle Hamilton: sorry to say Janice, but I have not gotten any encouragement from this chat tonight
Rita Hannahs: Bye everyone, thanks for all the info, it was really helpful.
Kerry Wondolowski: me to Pam
Janice Martin: Sometimes the breaks themselves are actually the reward. Like Pam mentioned, if you enjoy cooking, even taking a cooking break can be helpful and rewarding!
Janice Martin: Michelle, do you have any specific questions that we haven’t answered?
Janice Martin: Perhaps I can be more specific in meeting your needs.
Michele Gordon: It does take effort, and a certain mind set too... actually wanting the course work and the learning...
Pam Brehm: Michelle, what type of support are you looking for so we can offer you help.
Victor Pallares: Michelle, I think the encouragement has to come mostly from yourself, I think for the kind of subjects we are all learning one must be really passionate about it to actually be able to process so much information.
Claudia Cleary: I have to go too. . .my husband is home, and my daughter needs to get to bed. . goodnight!
Janice Martin: Thanks, Victor – you bring up a good point.
Michelle Hamilton: well, I have no one around who understands my desire to make a career switch, so it different to cope whilst working in totally different field and encourage yourself
Janice Martin: Thanks, Michelle, it does seem we’re swimming upstream sometimes.
Sandra Ikenaga: Maybe if you have a goal in mind–what you want to do with the learning or short term like I want to get this much done by a certain time. I set goals when I went back to college
Kerry Wondolowski: I have the same problem, Michelle
Michele Gordon: One day at a time, and sometimes, one hour at a time!
Pam Brehm: very good.
Eritsa Jones: Janice, this has been really informative. thank you and thanks to all who are here Good night
Janice Martin: It sounds like it would be helpful to connect with other like–minded people who do understand your plans and goals.
Janice Martin: Thanks, Eritsa.
Victor Pallares: I need encouragement all the time, that’s why I try to find encouragement everyday. By different means such as this forum.
Michelle Hamilton: I live in Jamaica and I don’t really have that contact
Michele Gordon: These chats always leave me with a warm feeling... like others are out there working toward the same things...
Pam Brehm: Michelle, since there is no one physically to support you, we can be your spiritual support. So, e–mail ANY TIME!
Janice Martin: Oh, I see, I guess there aren’t too many others around.
Michelle Hamilton: thanks Pam
Michele Gordon: And keep coming to these chats!
Janice Martin: Thanks, Pam — great offer!
Michelle Hamilton: what your email address
Kerry Wondolowski: that goes for anyone else too
Janice Martin: Thanks, everyone, for that great support of each other. Very thoughtful, and great networking! I think it may be helpful to keep your larger goals in mind, too.
Janice Martin: When things don’t seem to be progressing, it helps to keep in mind that you are working toward a larger goal.
Pam Brehm: It is so important to truly BELIEVE in your path. What are you here, what do you hope to accomplish. You must first know the answers to those questions before you can even begin to hare your journey with others.
Michelle Hamilton: thanks Kerry
Kerry Wondolowski: thank you, Janice
Janice Martin: Very helpful, Pam – I can see why your ministry is so powerful!
Victor Pallares: Jumping from marketing to Natural Health, it’s not easy I’m sure. I am jumping from video production to natural health, what helps me is that I feel really passionate about Natural Health and I want to incorporate both skills through documentaries and such. Like wise, I think you have a good opportunity jumping from marketing and you can later use those skills learned to market your skills and practice.
Michelle Hamilton: I try to share it, but most individuals I know think that naturopathy is not a real practice
Michele Gordon: So true!
Victor Pallares: I think naturopathy should be the most used practice
Pam Brehm: So, Michelle, put Naturopathy into words they will understand and identify it.
Kerry Wondolowski: if you have a passion for this then everything else will fall in to place!
Janice Martin: Victor, those are important points. I see glimmerings of Natural Health woven throughout media.
Michelle Hamilton: thanks Victor
Kerry Wondolowski: focus on yourself and your goals, and the respect will come
Pam Brehm: And so it is!
Janice Martin: You know, another way to stay connected and support each other, is to use our bulletin boards and chat room yourselves any time.
Michelle Hamilton: well they all think I not making sense, because I am so business oriented
Kerry Wondolowski: my family and husband think I’m nuts!
Janice Martin: With all the e–mail addresses you’ve just shared, you can set up a “meeting time” on your own, and it can be of your own choosing. You can conduct your own networking chats.
Michelle Hamilton: there you go ....Kerry that’s what I get too
Kerry Wondolowski: I know I’m on the right path, proving myself to them takes away from my goal and focus
Janice Martin: I also think that you might be surprised by how many people are out there who actually are aware of the importance of our teachings.
Victor Pallares: Oh yeah me too slowly the paradigm is shifting even absurd shows like arrested development wove alot of info in the comedy.
Janice Martin: Good point, Kerry.
Kerry Wondolowski: I agree Victor
Pam Brehm: Aren’t we all a little “nuts”? We all walk to the beat of a different drummer but are all walking the same path.
Kerry Wondolowski: so true, Pam
Michelle Hamilton: yes
Janice Martin: Very true.
Michele Gordon: It helps to be a little nutz!
Michele Gordon: LOL...
Michelle Hamilton: true, Michele
Pam Brehm: Keeps things fun
Michele Gordon: Yes...
Janice Martin: Tonight has been great — around 25 like–minded naturopaths all talking and sharing!
Jacinda Smith: Hi Michelle, I am a new student but the way I look at it is that I have an opportunity to enrich my own personal knowledge of health, how the body works, what it needs, etc., and hopefully soon I’ll be able to help others learn the same. The things you are learning are making you a wiser, healthier person with every page you turn. I have a marketing major as well. Like VIctor said, you will be able to pull from that skill once you’re ready. All your experiences are pieces of your puzzle that will can fit together.
Victor Pallares: I really feel like the world is upside down and health care is a reflection of that.
Michele Gordon: That is so true!
Pam Brehm: Exactly Jacinda
Janice Martin: This marketing discussion brings to mind another resource, from the practice courses – you’ll all see “Business Mastery” in those courses.
Kerry Wondolowski: goodnight everyone and good luck...please keep in touch!
Janice Martin: Cherie Sohnen–Moe may serve as some inspiration to aspiring practitioners – she has a powerful web site, with much free information and networking, as well as her book.
Pam Brehm: GN Kerry
Janice Martin: Hopefully that will also be helpful.
Michelle Hamilton: thanks Jacinda that’s what I believe, and my goal is set just need to make the time and block out the obstacles to stay focus
Michele Gordon: There you go!
Jacinda Smith: Michelle, maybe you can get a marketing job in some sort of “health” company ? is that possible where you live?
Janice Martin: Thanks, Jacinda, for those helpful thoughts!
Michelle Hamilton: not at all, right now I hope to migrate to the US soon so I am really praying for that, so I can be connected to the exposure I want
Janice Martin: Thank you all for joining in tonight, and for sharing support, ideas, and for the powerful networking. I’ll be signing off, but feel free to contact me or your Faculty Advisor with any questions. Thank you all for a wonderful chat and for great participation!
Pam Brehm: TY Janice
Michelle Hamilton: thanks Janice
Michele Gordon: Good night and thank you, Janice!
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